8:17 * bgeron wonders what tools
13:20 Chouser: Is there a way to test if something is a keyword?
13:21 rhickey_: not built in, I should add it
13:21 instance? clojure.lang.Keyword
13:21 Chouser: ok, thanks.
13:22 BTW, I'm poking casually at a query tool for map/seq trees like the kind xml.clj produces (as well as in general).
13:23 I like xpath, so it's definitely influencing the direction I go, but I don't what the queries to be strings that have to be parsed.
13:24 Anyway, I realized just a moment ago that there is at least one thing xpath allows that I think will be essentially impossible because of the map/seq structure: ../
13:27 rhickey_: well, there are noi parent references (tricky in a functional language), but that doesn't mean the traverser can't maintain a stack
13:28 I imagine there'd be much interest in something like xquery for Clojure maps
13:33 Chouser: well with "normal" DOM implementations, you can start your query on any node and still go to a parent, in which case a stack wouldn't be sufficient.
13:35 ...a stack in the context of the query, of course.
13:38 rhickey_: Have you read: http://
13:41 * Chouser reads now
15:18 jh06: I asked about a day ago about not being able to redefine if
15:19 rhickey_: ok
15:19 jh06: apparently you cannot define a function named if and it have any impact, but you can name a macro named if and it will take precedence. Is this how mosts Lisps work?
15:19 I mean I understand that if is a special operator
15:21 rhickey_: If you were able to define a macro, that's just a hole I'll end up plugging at some point. The recommendation is not to redefine special ops. What were you trying to do?
15:21 jh06: honestly nothing in particular, I was just looking at how Clojure is implemented
15:22 I would like to see if CL and Scheme do something similar
15:23 rhickey_: In general I'm not looking to support redefining the primitives - it leads to code that won't interoperate. That's why the reader is still closed. So, in that respect more restrictive than CL
15:24 jh06: makes sense
15:45 Chouser: so you won't let me use a thread-local binding to, say, instrument "if", or log it or anything.
15:46 rhickey_: no, it really is primitive
15:46 not many things are
15:48 Chouser: :-) ok
17:10 ericthor: assuming there may be multiple streams writing clojure into a running JVM either for development purposes or possibly accessing a remote REPL, is the best way to do this to serialize the requests on a LinkedBlockingQueue and send them back to streams running the the requesting thread?
17:10 oops...no Rich
22:33 jonathan_: hi Rich, thanks for the help today!
22:35 And thanks for pointing out function literals. I'm really looking forward to trying them in something useful
22:36 oops...no Rich
22:37 "Cheers" to anyone enjoying a beer. And "Snap" to anyone enjoying a Boddingtons...